NEW ZEALAND POOL INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION Incorporated
From our vintage Web Site from 2009
HAS THIS LOGO CHANGED IN TEN YEARS?
The Passing of long-time Guild Member and supporter of the Swimming Pool Industry in New Zealand, Geoffrey John (Geoff) Bonham is notified.
Geoffrey passed away on January 21st 2019, after a short illness.
Geoff was a good friend to many of us and was truly liked as a person, and admired for his voluntary dedication in representing the swimming pool industry to the Government and Territorial Authorities while maintaining his commercial interests in the field of Spa Safety Covers and Automatic Swimming Pool covers dating back to the 1970's and 1980's.
Moving on from his Leisuretime manufacturing and distribution company in recent years, Geoff was elected to Honorary Member of the NZ Pool Industry Association Inc in 2015 and remained an on-call Member of the Executive Committee whilst still participating in the pool accessory field
Geoffrey served the swimming pool Industry in 2004-2005 with his volunteer work on the NZ Standard 8500:2006 (which is still referenced in MBIE pool fencing rules) and served three years 2013-2015 on the Auckland Council Pool Fencing Committee while the most recent pool fencing act was developed and introduced as the Building (Pools) Amendment Act 2017 and section F9 of the Building Code.
Geoff always maintained that NZS 8500:2006 was a sufficient upgrade of the Fencing of Swimming Pools Act 1987, and continued to advise MBIE and the Territorial Authorities to simply 'fine tune' NZS 8500 – especially after the introduction of the 2017 Act which dismayed him and many others of us in the pool Guild.
As it always is, it's a shock when one of our friends passes away. Especially for me, as I had emailed Geoff on January 15th (last week) to suggest that we catch up for lunch soon.
His response was:
"That sounds like a great idea Larry, when would it suit you - next week or the week after"
Sadly, this was not to be.
A good person, who's presence will be missed
The Christmas break might be a good time to remember to look at doing the Diploma Course:
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Current Builder Members who complete the Diploma Course will Automatically become Master Pool Builders and can display the MASTER POOL BUILDER logos on their stationary, vehicles and web pages. And you an flash your Master Pool Builder card next time you are at the Council lodging a Building Application - who knows, it might get some traction there!
Take THE FIRST SMALL STEP today! Download and read the first couple of Papers
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2019 - 2020 POOL PHOTOGRAPHIC COMPETITION
We've been so busy lately that we almost forgot the biennual Photographic Competition
The changes in the web sites for the NZPIA Inc have confused things somewhat
As a result, the competition for 2016-2018 was neglected, so I have introduced the new competition for 2019-2020
PHOTO COMP tab (above) is an introduction to the latest version of the competition
Due to the delayed start, things may be a little hectic for some Builder Members as they are busy "building" - not "photographing" - however with a closing date of mid-May 2019, you should have ample time to get your photograph portfolio up tp date.
Hopefully, you will have been receiving our quarterly NEWSLETTER prepared by Profesional Newsletter Editor Jenni Phan [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
In early stages, it's often diffficult to find interesting things to say, and Jenni is not part of the swimming pool industry, so congrats to her for producing the framework of what could become an interesting contact medium with the NZPIA
Feedback and contributions are invited
SMALL POOLS MAYNOT NEED A BUILDING APPROVAL
The NZPIA has taken legal advice concerning clauses 21 and 32 Schedule 1 Building Act 2004 as amended by
the Building (Pools) Amendment Act 2016
That advice confirms that no building consent is required for construction of residential swimming pools that
meet the criteria of clause 23 Schedule 1 Building Act 2004.
However, we note that one Council that we have been in correspondence with concerning the issue set out a
compelling argument for managing risk if certain geotechnical issues are present at the intended site.
Accordingly, the NZPIA is of the understanding our members do not have to apply for building consent to
construct a residential swimming pool that complies with clause 23 Schedule 1 Building Act 2004; however,
they may submit such an application in circumstances where they wish to obtain guidance from Council
concerning the intended site.
In respect of pool fencing, the Building (Pools) Amendment Act 2016 at section 18(1) amended clause 21(2) so
that fences which do not require a building consent does not include pool fences. Accordingly, our members
will continue to apply for a building consent for all intended pool fences.
5 June 2018:
Across the ditch... pool fencing in NZ
We've been through the same thing here, now the pool fencing saga is playing out in New Zealand.
New pool safety legislation came into effect in New Zealand on 1 January 2017. The Building (Pools) Amendment Act 2016 repealed the Fencing Swimming Pools Act 1987 and inserted provisions relating to residential pool safety into the Building Act 2004.
According to the Ministry for Business, Innovation and Employment (MBIE), key changes to the code included:
- residential swimming pool barriers must be inspected every three years;
- safety covers will be used as barriers for spa pools and hot tubs; and,
- territorial authorities will have better tools to enforce pool barrier requirements, including notices to fix and infringement notices.
Provisions in the building code included clause 162C (1), which deems that residential pools (filled or partly filled) must have means of restricting access — via a physical barrier — by unsupervised children under five years of age. Clause 162C (2) states that the means of restricting access must comply with the current code requirements, or those that were in force at the time of construction or installation (post 1987).
This probably seems fairly straightforward, not to mention familiar. Unfortunately — as is often the case with retrospective legislation — the implementation hasn't exactly been smooth sailing. There's been conjecture over 'short cuts' and 'loopholes', a couple of backflips and a whole lot of complaining as industry, government and water safety groups try to reach some sort of consensus.
While the new Act requires territorial authorities to inspect pool fences, it also allows regions to waive or modify building code requirements. The intent here is for authorities to exercise judgement when dealing with 'unusual compliance conditions'.
What is a suitable physical barrier?
In February this year, local NZ news website stuff.co.nz reported that in the 12 months since the new Act came into effect, MBIE had received 25 waiver applications that nominated automatic covers as a suitable physical barrier to swimming pool access. Had 23 of the 25 waiver applications not originated in one council district, the trend may not have been immediately apparent.
The bulk of the applications came from Marlborough District Council, which said it had sought clarification from MBIE on the use of electric safety covers versus fences. The council said ithad received no signal to suggest this was an unsuitable solution, so continued to submit waiver applications in the same vein. The crux of the issue here is the subjective nature of the process — what inspectors in one district determine to be a reasonable modification won't necessarily be seen that way by others. One man's 'unusual compliance conditions' are not the same as another's, if you like.
At this point, Water Safety NZ (WSNZ) stepped in and suggested the only acceptable form of barrier was fencing and that the inclusion of pool covers as an alternative threatened to introduce uncertainty because the practice is open to human failure. As five children under the age of five had died in preventable deaths since the legislation came into effect, WSNZ said that allowing pool covers as an alternative to fencing was effectively a 'short cut' that introduced unacceptable risk and should be banned.
By late March, the use of automatic pool covers without fencing was banned nationwide, with MBIE ruling the practice as non-compliant with the building code. MBIE said that a compliant pool fence with automatically closing gates or door alarms presented less risk than the use of an automated pool cover. This is because the pool cover could be left open — even if only temporarily — when a supervising adult was not present. Given that the overriding intent of building code changes was to prevent injury or death to young children in residential pools, MBIE deemed the increased risk associated with (fenceless) pool cover use as incompatible with that overall objective.
Predictably, not everyone was happy with the outcome. In Marlborough, 200 affected pool owners will have to apply for building consent to install a compliant barrier. For those with expired exemptions, that is an immediate requirement and, for those with as-yet-unexpired waivers, a compliant installation must be in by the expiry date (which can be between five and 10 years).
For those with an immediate issue, the council suggested a range of remedies including putting up a temporary barrier and draining pools to 400 millimetres or less. The latter of these presents an additional problem, as it potentially creates a drop of more than one metre. Not only is this also unallowable under the building code, it represents an even greater safety risk, according to industry members. Temporary measures aside, home owners with expired waivers have only 90 days to comply.
Industry members suggest that planned pool installation projects have been cancelled in the wake of the ruling and that home owners fear their property value will go down because of the fencing requirement. The NZ Pool Industry Association (NZPIA) thinks the MBIE has gotten it wrong and that the determination* should have been challenged by Marlborough District Council.
*(This is not strictly correct, as a Poll of Association Members indicated 28 of 33 returns agreed with the MBIE decision.
The Auto Pool Cover providers and Alternatived Solution Members disagreed that MBIE had removed the right of the
Territrial Authorities to allow these covers as an "Acceptable Alternative" to a ring-fenced pool, and are currently
seeking legal advice on how to protest the MBIE Determination. The NZPIA Inc has yet to be approached whether we
agree with their protest.
The devil is in the detail
According to NZPIA, the devil is in the detail... because the Building Act does not explicitly rule out the use of covers as a barrier, it believes they should be allowed. Some industry members feel that the 'human failure' argument isn't justified, as an adult is equally capable of leaving a pool gate open as they are of not covering a pool. Faulty and inoperable gates also represent a notable risk, so can't be deemed 100% failsafe. In justifying the issuing of waivers, Marlborough District Council said that no children have drowned at locations where automated pools covers are installed since the practice commenced.
There are calls to make determinations on a case-by-case basis, given that every pool installation is different.
When discretion fails
Compounding an already complex and contentious issue is the recent discovery by Whangarei District Council (WDC) that many previously approved fencing installations are actually non-compliant.
This came to light when a home owner sought certification on a property being sold. The inspection found the pool fence didn't meet with code, despite having previously been approved. This prompted the council to conduct a random audit, which saw 10 of the 11 inspected properties failing. Council said it was likely the fault of inspection officers 'using more discretion than was likely appropriate', again highlighting limitations with an essentially subjective process.
There are over 1200 privately owned pools in the district, many of which will undoubtedly be recognised as non-compliant.
WDC plans a complete review of its database and reassessment of fencing installations — starting with pools seen as 'higher risk'. It also reminded pool owners of their own obligations and encouraged self-inspection with a focus on vegetation growth and changes to buildings, ground level or surrounding gardens.
So, pools must be fenced. End. Of. Story. Or is it? Clause 162C (3) of the Building Act says, "In the case of a small heated pool, the means of restricting access referred to in subsection (1) need only restrict access to the pool when the pool is not in use."
This means that spa pools, provided they are 760 mm above the ground and have a surface area of less than five square metres, don't need a fence, but are required to have a lockable cover in place when they are not in use. Any pool that extends beyond five square metres and is deeper than 400 mm is automatically recognised as a pool, regardless of whether it is 760 mm above the ground. This means the fencing rule applies.
The legislation may have come into effect in January 2017, but most of the issues outlined in this article have come to light within the last three months, which serves to remind what a complicated undertaking this is... and we've only looked at the nuts and bolts of implementation.
As an initiative designed to save lives, the focus often moves to seemingly secondary issues — like aesthetics and property values. We're a little further down the track in Australia, pretty much at the point where seeing an unfenced pool is akin to watching someone light up a cigarette in the office or a restaurant — once commonplace, but now unthinkable. Hopefully the dust will settle in NZ and consensus be achieved. If it only saves one child's life, it has to be worth the trouble.
Image credit: © stock.adobe.com/au/Dominique Ducouret
Chief Executive Officer's Report GENERAL MEETING 16th May 2018
This is the last Report for the 2018 Financial Year which terminates on 30 June
It's been a busy year for most Pool Builders so far, and this means a busy year for the Trade Supplier Members and other swimming pool industry associated trades and pool shops
I would like to express our appreciation to the current fourteen Trade Supplier Members, and remind our Builder Members to support them by using their services and buying their products where possible, just as they support our Trade Organisation with their contributions to our fees.
The Highlight of the 2018 year – the 2017 AGM 25th Anniversary - was a tremendous success, to the credit of organiser Vikki Templeman - who's planning and execution of a fantastic night out was flawless.
Other items of note this year include the Adoption of our new name The NZ Pool Industry Association Inc
and the amendments to the Constitution needed to accomplish this. Our resurrected Online Newsletter would have been received by all Members: Comments are welcomed.
The repeal of The Fencing of Swimming Pools Act 1987 to be replaced by the Building (Pools) Amendment Act 2016, was in force from January 1st 2018 and was meant to reduce the number of Council staff "Interpretations" causing Builders real problems in getting Building Permits.
Our Association contributed to these changes through the attendance by Geoff Bonham
, Neil Runciman,
and myself to Auckland Council's Fencing Committee 2013 - 2016
The Schedule to the Act was supplemented by Clause F9 – Means of Restricting Access to Residential Pools, which allows for acceptable alternatives to be considered. Acceptance of Automatic Pool Covers by some Councils as an alternative to a "Barrier" as specified in the new Act got into the Mainstream Press: Not a great Idea, as it prompted that Local Marlborough Authority to request a Determination from MBIE – which ruled against them.
This prompted out recent On Line-Poll, in which resulted in 33 responses to the question
"ARE AUTOMATIC POOL COVERS ACCEPTABLE AS A BARRIER ALTERNATIVE UNDER F9"
The question asked of Members was narrowly focussed, and obviously the responses reflected this:
28 No --- 5 Yes
- But the way questions are asked often foretell the obvious answer, as in the final analysis, and under certain conditions, an Automatic Pool Cover is probably the most effective barrier against Under 5's accessing a swimming pool. If it is in the closed position.
MBIE was more concerned with the Human Nature aspect – like forgetting to close the cover, kids closing it while other kids were in the pool – for a joke - that could cause tragedy, and power strikes that render the mechanism useless and stuck in the "open" state for just a few reasons given.
Our Guest Speakers this evening Les Hole & Geoff Bonham will discuss these issues, in seeking support of the idea that our Association should officially dispute the MBIE determination on behalf of the Swimming Pool Industry. Due to time constraints this evening, this will be a limited audience participation event.
Laurence E (Larry) Ogden Dip Pool Tech (Hon) NZPIA Certified Builder #108/2021
Chief Executive Officer
General Meeting 16th May 2018 at Waipuna Conference Centre, Auckland
4:00 – 5:00 Executive Committee Meeting
5:00 – 6:15 Meet n Greet at Wellington's Bar
6:30 – 7:00 Conference Room
CEO Larry Ogden: Welcome to Members and Guests
ADVANCE Apologies: (More will be in the Minutes which will be posted later)
Executive Committee Reports:
Finance Darryl Blennerhassett
Membership Kerry Richmond
Ethics/Disputes Lawrie Tanner (Emailed comments from Justin Miharere)
Executive Member resignations:
Carlos Morgan: The Pool Industry Assn gave CJ a parting gift in appreciation of the many years of time & efforts give freely to the Association. An Engraved Gold ball-point pen was presented to Carlos in appreciation. His attendance as Disputes Chair will be missed.
Justin Miharere: Justin found the time requirements of running his pool company made it difficult for him to perform his Executive duties for the Association, so regretfully tendered his resignation
Vacant Positions on Executive:
Disputes Investigation & Resolution
General Executive duties, dealing with Council and MBIE as required
If you are, or know a Member who may be, interested - email email@example.com
1. There's a 2:1 Constitutional requirement ratio of Builder Member to Non-Builder Member
2. Easy access to Auckland for the four or five annual meetings would be preferable.
CEO State of the Nation (Separate page)
7:00 – 7:30
Guest Speakers Les Hole & Geoff Bonham: Contentious ruling by MBIE re inadmissibility of acceptance of Alternative Option for a pool barrier by an Automatic Pool Cover 7:00 – 7:30
7:30 – 9:30 Dine & Dance at Wellington's Restaurant & Bar
MBIE Decides whether Auto Pool Covers provide a compliant pool 'Barrier'
Click the above graphic to download PDF file of Determination
Mike Freeth Pool Builder Nelson SI brought this to the attention of the Media
Click picture above for more and Stuff's article on it.
DO YOU HAVE Any comments?
Can youthink of a better reason to buy a Swimming Pool?
Our Twenty-Fifth BIRTHDAY CelebratioN
Rotorua 25th Birthday Bash on Saturday 4th November was a great success
Thanks to Organiser Vicky Templeman for her efforts in making this a memorable event!
Sumptuous dinner menu in incredible surroundings: in a converted swimming pool
- what could be more fitting?
Thanks to all who attended - a Great Time was had by all
Entertainment provided by The Mermaids
CEO Laurence E (Larry) Ogden Dip Pool Tech (Hon) NZPIA Certified Builder 108/2021
MANY THANKS FOR A WONDERFUL NIGHT OUT VICKY
Thanks to kerry richmond photographer of sorts
THE NEW ZEALAND SWIMMING POOL INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION INCORPORATED
TWENTYFIFTH ANNIVERSARY WEEKEND
Award and Gifts chosen by Vicky and other Exec Members were presented to me to commemorate my 25 consecutive years in the Association.
This event held on Saturday 4th November 2017 celebrated twenty-five years since the founding of the New Zealand Master Pool Builders Inc – now known as the NZ Pool Industry Association Inc. I hope you have enjoyed your dinner and the event so far tonight.
Firstly I would like to share our appreciation to the organiser of this event: Vicky Templeman.
In the planning stages, Vicky soldiered on bravely despite a terrible home accident earlier in the year in which she ended up with a badly broken leg and Hospital treatment. Trying to get this event sorted was (as Vicky told me) "Trying to herd cats" and I quite believe her, so please make sure you have a great time tonight!
In planning this event, Vicky was assisted by Executive Treasurer Darryl Blennerhassett who handles the financial side of the planning.
And of course the Executive Committee
– a voluntary position freely given - was involved one way or another,
so my thanks to them all -
Justin Miharere, Laurie Tanner, Kerry Richmond, and ex-officio executives Neil Runciman, Geoff Bonham and Paul Fuller representing us to Council and Government and Paul looking after our Tauranga interests and of course our recently retired Senior Executive, Carlos Morgan.
The original 1992 Members were:
Kevin Julian - Secretary
Spa & Pool Factory
John McLaren Pools
Larry Ogden - Chairman
BM Starns Limited
John Sutherland - Treasurer
Peter Thomas Pools
Of these 11 original Members only Steve Budden, Kevin Julian, John Sutherland and myself are current members.
I am not sure what has become with the other members, although one has since died, and others left the pool industry
I would also like to mention our ROLL OF HONOUR Members.
These are individuals who – for various reasons – have been awarded Honorary Life Membership of the association:
Gordon Nimmo Retired 5 years as Treasurer 1997 – 2002
Carlos Morgan Still Working 16 years Life Achievement Service to Swimming Pool Industry
Bill Strowger Retired 9 years as South Island representative 1999 – 2008
Neil Lewis Deceased 3 years as General Committee Member 1997 - 1999
Kevin Julian Retired 5 years as President 1992 – 1997
Mike Wesseldine Deceased Structural Engineer & Friend to the Swimming Pool Industry – 2012
Geoff Bonham Still Working 20 years' Service to Swimming Pool Industry - 2014
John Honore' Retired 3 years President – 2015
Terry Hunt Working 10 year Service to Swimming Pool Industry 1996 - 2016
And myself, 2004 for 20 years' Service to the Swimming Pool Industry (that was 13 years ago & I'm still here!)
Meeting monthly at a downtown Auckland bar, a few of us "Rebels" had decided to form our own pool association as the The Master Pool Builders (formed as a "Trade Guild")
We were disgruntled ex-members of the New Zealand Swimming & Spa Pool Association Inc.
Being a Guild meant there was no corporate body that could be sued, just a "Trade Guild" of individual "Tradesmen".
The New Zealand Master Pool Builders Guild 1992 evolved over the next 25 years as The New Zealand Master Pool Builders Incorporated in 2008, and finally The New Zealand Pool Industry Association Incorporated in 2017
The original New Zealand pool association was formed back in 1976 to try to bring some sanity to the relatively new out-of-control pool industry, with the goal of sorting out the almost "Wild West" pool business at the time.
The thought was that by bringing the pool builders together, it would encourage them to change their attitudes to each other
In those days, the opposition was "the enemy" when (just as now) the Pool Industry is just one "Leisure Industry" competing for the disposable Dollar being spent on Boats, Caravans, Campervans and Overseas Holidays.
To a large extent, this is still true today in the middle classes, whereas the upper echelons will have pools constructed as a necessary "Badge of status".
They were so antagonistic towards each other in those days that we had to appoint a couple of "Strong Arm" Master at Arms members ( I think Terry Hunt was one) to be on hand at Meetings to sort out the fist fights that used to break out between Builder Members.
By the late 1980's many Pool Builders had left the organisation due to policy differences being adopted by the elected committee, and in the early 1990's the collapse of their once successful Bonding Scheme resulted in a huge debt which virtually put them out of business, setting the scene for the new Pool Guild to fill the vacancy.
From small beginnings of eight to ten pool regular builder members in 1992, we now have more than 70 mixed memberships listed on the Membership Listing - including not only BUILDER MEMBERS but FIBREGLASS INSTALLERS, Fibreglass pool Distributors, Equipment Manufacturers and Distributors, Spa Pool manufacturers, TRADE SUPPLIERS. POOL SHOPS, POOL SERVICEMEN and ASSOCIATE MEMBERS such as Pool Trade Staff or other categories.
We have evolved the Guild into a Corporate Style of management by an appointed Executive rather than a committee being elected by popular vote. This allows a diverse organisation of all swimming pool industry members, but maintaining the core direction being guided by the members who create the income: the swimming pool builders, and establish the "ground rules" for the pool industry:
FOR THE PUBLIC
"The Association was formed to sort out the less reputable and poorer quality builders, to promote excellence in its reputable Builder Members, and to recommend a choice of pool type and style which will enable the public to make a choice they will not regret"
FOR THE MEMBERS
"To provide a Forum for industry-related people to meet in a friendly and non-confrontational environment, and exchange ideas or vent problems. Open to all Industry Members who pledge to meet our ethical and quality standards and to abstain from any activity that is disadvantageous or detrimental to, or critical of, their fellow Industry Members."
In order to facilitate these lofty goals, we initiated projects that would raise the Public and Territorial Authorities awareness of the substantial New Zealand Swimming Pool Industry:
- Biennial Photographic competition: First held in 2002/2003 and due again next year
- The NZ Diploma Course was developed from the 1980's Australian Pool Technician's Course
- Introduction of the Pool Builder's Licensing as a supplement to the Diploma Course for Builders
- The Web Site – debuted in 2001, and now with a PUBLIC and MEMBERS version
- Disputes Assessment and Resolution program for both Builder-Client and Client-Builder disputes
We need to attract younger builders into the industry, and - in my opinion- by introducing Swimming Pool Industry Certification or Qualification courses, we could offer them recognised Industry Qualifications that would be accepted by the Public and City Councils and bring some stability to the industry.
This can be our five year goal:
I hope I can encourage younger Members to make it happen.
Laurence E (Larry) Ogden Dip Pool Tech (Hon) NZPIA Certified Builders License 108/2021
Chief Executive Officer
New Zealand Pool Industry Association Incorporated
The original 11 Members comprised seven Pool Builders to Fibreglass Installers and two Trade Suppliers:
The original Logo was the result of an invitation from the members to suggest something: About six or so were considered, by the design by Steve Webster was finally chosen, and still exists in a modified format to this day.
Easy to see which one we chose!
The first thought for our name wasn't the Master Pool Builders ...
Remember that the NZSPA was still in action at that time - we were the deserters who abandonded them due to the large number of non-builder members ending up running the association. This is why we carefully monitor our Members rights to avoid this happening again.
The Executive are of the unshakeable opinion that the Pool Industry "Starts" with the Pools being built, so the Pool Builders interests need to be taken care of initially - as they create the wealth which trickles down to the Pool Shops, Pool Servicemen and Trade suppliers.
We hope that you will be able to join us in celebrating our 25th anniversary
As usual, it will be difficult to suit everyone with a suitable venbue and date, but we would like you to try to come.
More on the proposed dates soon .......
A Change in Direction
Back in 2015, and mentioned again at the 2016 AGM was our trending towards moving into our 26th year of operation by setting some new goals.
WE WILL HENCEFORTH BE KNOWN AS THE NZ POOL INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION Inc - NZ PIA Inc
We felt that many potential Members saw the original name as only a 'Pool Builder's Guild' and didn't see the point of joining.
THE NEW ZEALAND POOL INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION INCORPORATED
We have devised a new (but similar) LOGO to go withthe new name
STICKERS WILL BE AVAILABLE IN DUE COURSE
CHECK THE LOGO USEAGE PAGE in the MEMBERSHIP section FOR MORE
Membership Fees - FROM July 1st 2017 TO June 30 2018
We have had adopted 5% increase in fees for the new year
|FPM = "Full Privilege Member, i.e. Voting Rights when required, Gratis Dinner at General and Annual General Meetings
|NVR = "No Voting Rights" and usually combined with NDR "No Dinner Rights"
|NDR = "No Dinner Rights"
|DR = "Dinner Rights"
|NDR Members may attend all meetings, and pay for their (and their partner's) Dinner cost.of $50 per person
|All Members may attend the Meet & Greet Hour and the following Meeting, but no Gratis Dinner
|GOLD BUILDER MEMBERS and BUILDER MEMBERS
|| FPM DR
|ASSOCIATE BUILDER MEMBERS
|| FPM DR
|ASSOCIATE FIBREGLASS INSTALLER MEMBERS
|| FPM DR
|ASSOCIATE MEMBER TRADE SUPPLIERS
|| FPM DR
||DIPLOMA COURSE 12 month FEE ($450.00 value)
|| Must complete within 12months
|ASSOCIATE MEMBER POOL SHOP
|ASSOCIATE MEMBER POOL SERVICEMAN
|DIPLOMA COURSE AVAILABLE ($450.00)
|ASSOCIATE MEMBER INDUSTRY STAFF
|ASSOCIATE MEMBER GENERAL (BASIC)
|ASSOCIATE MEMBER GENERAL (FULL)
|ASSOCIATE MEMBER HONORARY
|Non-DR Members who wish to stay for Dinner
Monday 12 June 2017
Swish take this opportunity to invite all interested parties in the pool consent process (architects, landscapers, builders, pool manufacturers, installers and home owners) to join us in what amounts to a fight to retain the right to make life-style decisions around home pool ownership and child safety.
Swish are continuing efforts to get the MBIE advised "non-mandatory clauses" removed or modified in the NZBC F9 AS1 and AS2 Schedule published 28 April 2017.
The starting point in our campaign is clause 4.2.1 which "requires all door-sets with home pool access to be single leaf door panel of not more than 1000mm wide!" - This restriction reversing a 12 year successful "Best Practice" in pool safety compliance.
After our four emails to MBIE we have determined:
1. AS1 Schedule clause 4.2.1 is not-mandatory
- As confirmed on the 10 May 2017
2. Multi-panel door-sets with panels wider than 1000mm can be modified for pool compliance under NZBC F9 "as an alternate solution" when Swish systems are used
- As confirmed on 12 May 2017
3. Consent approvals and Exemptions issued to 31 December 2017 remain valid unless the pool or property is modified by work undertaken under a Building Consent - As confirmed on the 12 May 2017
4. Consent approvals issued between 1 January 2017 and 28 April 2017 by BCA's using the FoSPA 1987 Schedule and/or NZS 8500-2006 remain valid under NZBC F9 unless the pool or property is modified by work undertaken under a Building Consent
- As confirmed by this email dated 11 June 2017!
Swish have again written to MBIE advising some BCA's are not following points 1, to 4. on consents issued for projects up to and including the 28 April 2017. In this regard we have requested MBIE issue an advice or instruction to BCA's ensuring consented projects are not delayed in the building certification process.
We have also again requested advice on the following:
a. Advise how Swish can expedite safety compliance approvel on the 85 plus projects we have in progress without increasing compliance cost to the client until subclause 4.2.1 is removed from the AS1 Schedule.
b. Confirm when MBIE will remove subclause 4.2.1 and eliminate its potentially chaotic consequences.
Swish have also suggested MBIE adapt the referenced document NZS 8500 clauses 2.3.2 / 3.7 / 4.6 (which describe and specify a 'child resistant door-set') advising this could, with minor adjustments for clarity and cohesion, replace NZBC F9 AS1 4.2.1 / 4.2.3 / 4.2.4
Swish take this opportunity to invite all interested parties in the pool consent process (architects, landscapers, builders, pool manufacturers, installers and home owners) to join us in what amounts to a fight to retain the right to make life-style decisions around home pool ownership and child safety.
We have available in pdf format all our emailed letters to MBIE on this subject which can be used as part (or the basis of) your own effort to get these new clauses revoked. These clauses were not reviewed or discussed during the "making pool safety easier" submission or Select Committee process. On this basis alone, they should be removed from the published NZBC F9 legislation and its schedules.
Swish also confirm subclause 4.2.1 is not the only cause for pool industry concern in NZBC F9 AS1 and AS2 however, many of the other 'introduced without referance' clauses in the documents will fall on the successful removal of this piece of stupidity.
Again, we seek your support and assitance in ensuring MBIE are encouraged to exercise common sense as it relates to door-set specification and modification.
Les J Hole - Director - Mobile 2074 77 9000
May 26th 2017
As previously advised, we have requested MBIE advice on how pool compliance could be achieved with multiple door panels, or for door panels wider than 1000mm which are larger than the specification contained in the NZBC clause F9 Schedule 4.2.1
The answer recommended in the Swish Technical Review of this clause (available from our website) was supplied to MBIE on the 10 May 2017 and has achieved the following response:
1. NZBC F9 Schedule 4.2.1 is not a mandatory requirement for pool compliance.
2. Multi panel door-sets or door panels wider than 1000mm when fitted with Swish Pool Access Safety Systems, are acceptable for pool compliance under NZBC clause F9 Schedule 4.2.1 as an 'alternative solution.'
3. MBIE have confirmed all pool consents issued before 31 December 2016 will be valid until there are new works proposed where a building consent is required.
4. Swish have again requested MBIE confirm a procedure to obtain 'alternative solution status' for door-sets with multiple door panels or with door panels wider than 1000mm without the need for an application for a special 'Determination.'
For further information and updates, click the banner and access the Pool Safety legislation pages. Our discussions with MBIE regarding pool safety compliance under NZBC clause F9 and its Schedule, will be posted as they become available.
Les J Hole - Director - Mobile: 0274 77 9000
Friday 28 April 2017
From the Ministry of Business Innovation & Employment
Fencing of Swimming Pools ( 2016 Act ) Acceptable Solutions
>>>>> Here's the PDF file from MBIE >>>>>[click here]
From Les Hole - Swish Automation
Tonight we obtained a copy of the new NZBC clause F9 Schedule of Acceptable Solutions F9/AS1 and F9/AS2 "Means of Restricting Access to Residential Pools" - The good news is that the Schedule uses NZS 8500-2006 as a Reference document but you can review the document for yourselves by clicking the banner, going to the Legislation page and download the MBIE Schedule dated 27 April 2017...
It is also pleasing to note that the NZS 8500-2006 definition of the "immediate pool area" which followed the Randerson Declarity Judgement of October 2004 is retained in full... The home pool owner retains the right to specify the proposed use of their pool and determine pool related activities within their designated pool area... The advice contained in the Swish Open & Shut Cases PoolZone Solutions is still valid and also downloadable by clicking the banner above...
However, some of the definitions under section 4.0 "Windows and Doors in the building wall" contain both progressive and regressive elements of change that will need working through in a practical sense... A great pity, as the document promised so much and failed to deliver by changing elements of both FoSPA and NZS 8500-2006 that didn't need changing... But an opportunity to improve the documents practicality in use is available through the MBIE "Determination" process or indeed, during a NZS 8500-2006 review which we are advised, is due later this year...
Les J Hole. Director.
Mobile: 0274 77 9000 / 0800 2Swish - 0800 279 474
Friday 17th March 2017
FOR ALL THOSE WHO CALLED TO ASK HOW TO ADD THEIR VOICE TO THE AMENDMENTS TO THE NEW FENCING LAW ISSUE:
Received from Les Hole:
I thought my email promotion to all architects, landscapers, pool builders, window / door manufacturers, builders and developers on our books was understandable:
- Go to the Swish Home page by clicking the promo banner
- This would take the recipient to www.swishautomation.com
- Download the Swish letter and submission to MBIE dated 16/12/16
- Read and review the content which includes "child resistant doors" – "Immediate Pool Area" - "Swing of hinge doors" – "Spa pools and hot tubs" – "Falling from height requirements for infinity pools" – and make notes about your own experiences
- Write a (supporting) email addressed to firstname.lastname@example.org
- Advising of your own problems with the compliance areas listed
- Supporting the submission of Swish to get these problems fixed
- Also end it to your local MP and Dr Nick Smith (full parliamentary list is provided)
- Attach the Swish letter and submission dated 16/12/16
- The reason?
- The attached graph highlights the 500 pools a year "Lost" in Auckland since the introduction of the Super City and its campaign to make pool ownership difficult
- The graph also shows pool consents for Auckland were 50% of the total, in 2104 that figure dropped to 40% at the most
- And it shows all territorial authorities are affected by Auckland Council attitudes through to 2014 and still are today
- Currently we have 15 projects 'on-hold' at Auckland City because they cannot understand the MBIE instruction "to use the Schedule to FoSPA 1987 and NZS 8500 for pool compliance until the new clause F9 Schedule is published…
- The good news? Of the 15 projects held:
- Three are for pool that have been installed
- Twelve are for building consents that include a pool
- Question 1: How long will it be before those projects delete the pool to get the consent through and the building works started?
- Question 2: Will those projects ever have a pool built in the future?
Sure, the effects on Swish are immediate, nationwide and obvious… We see the cancellations…
Obviously, the pool industry doesn't recognise they are losing business daily otherwise, they like Swish, would have been writing to MBIE, making submissions and attending Select Committee Hearings to protect their industry from further losses….
Happy for this package to be uplifted to the Pool Guild website, unchanged… And to assist the cause which is that "we have an industry to work in 50 years" I have attached our Submission of the 16/12/16 to save your member the inconvenience of an internet trip…
Les J Hole
Mobile: +64 274 77 9000
Wednesday 8th March 2017
Received from Les:
While I tried to keep this Swish promotion understated, I do agree with the sentiment expressed in the covering letter and your web site newsletter headline…
- I was appalled at the attitudes expressed at Select Committee Hearings by the medical profession…
- I was appalled at the misinformation (deliberately) leaked into the media by safety organisations that talked "total child drownings" and then referred to "the home pool!"
- I was appalled at the attitude of the Select Committee accepting medical profession 'scientific' submissions without challenge to drowning statistics…
- My submission attempted to balance the information regarding child drownings in home pools, and my figures were challenged… I advised they were from 'Drown-Base NZ" and readily available by download… Did the Select Committee check or follow through?
- Swish also supplied an analysis of child drownings in NZ and Australia from safety organisation sources which were population adjusted… These showed that despite Isolation Fencing, child drownings in the home pool were worse in Australia…
- After my submission, Star Ship Hospital senior management again followed the 'party line' inferring all child deaths by drowning occurred in the home pool and that their wards were full of children with near drowning injuries…
- Star Ship advised once again, our drowning statistics were worse than Australia and Isolation Fencing was the answer…
- ONCE AGAIN this submission was UNCHALLENGED by the Select Committee…
It was therefore, doubly disappointing last week to pick up on a comment that inferred "it appeared the government were on the wrong track by not adopting Australian Legislation…"
I put this attitude down to the lack of interest in the (then proposed) legislation from current pool owners and the general pool industry, including architects and landscapers…
- Had 10% of this potential interest base put in a written submission, MBIE would have received over 200,000 submissions…
- Had 1% of this potential interest base put in a written submission, MBIE would have received over 20,000 submissions…
- MBIE received 392 written submissions – Go figure!
- Our industry will get the pool legislation it deserves – Unless it wakes up today!
Thanks for your efforts to get support for our submission (following NZS 8500) which we have sent to our 1000 data base of architects, pool builders, landscapers and builders…
Can you and your members, also send the original Swish promo to your clients?
The more pressure we put on MBIE in the next 2 months the better to get workable legislation!
Regards, Les Hole
Tuesday 7th March 2017
Message to Larry Ogden CEO NZMPB Inc from Geoff Bonham NZMPB Pool Fencing representative (021) 923 838 -or- email@example.com on the LACK of submissions on this Bill before Parliament that affects us all in the swimmingpool industry!
Larry: "This shows once again the lack of support from the Pool Industry ( In respect of fighting the greenies and other people who hate the home swimming pool industry, but who get off their bums and say so to Government - Ed ), as Les says ... unless we get behind what he is doing, the Industry will have no-one to blame but ourselves judging from the lack of support for Les's submission! Tell the membership to send off a support of what Les is doing".
ARE YOU LISTENING?
Yes, it's a pain in the ass, but "THEY are OUT TO GET US". It's not a joke!
"THEY" are DETERMINED to adopt the Australian "Ring Fence" rules (that have been proved not to work) "They" don't want sensible and considered rules that make sense and protect young children. Home pool drownings have been decreasing over decades since FOSPA '87. While thousands mor pools have been constructed, drownings have decreased! It works! The new Building (Pools) Amendment Act 2016 works! DONT LET THEM MEDDLE WITH THINGS THAT WORK, simply because "they" dont think people should have a home swimming pool at all!
THEY HATE PEOPLE HAVING HOME SWIMMING POOLS !
HAVE YOUR SAY TODAY! IT'S IMPORTANT!
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Tuesday 28 February saw us take a fast trip to Wellington to visit MBIE to discuss in detail, the Swish submission dated 16 December 2016 regarding "child resistant door-sets" and the definition of "the immediate pool area!"
Our submission together with it's covering letter is available and downloadable from our Home page... Click the banner above...
From comments made at our meeting, it is obvious there is still significant pressure within NZ to introduce Australian home pool compliance solutions here...
Based on research provided to the Select Committee, those policies appear to have failed in Australia... Further, the implementation of these concepts in NZ under common FoSPA interpretation, did have a definite adverse effect on our industry...
Refer our web site pages 'Legislation,' 'Supervision' and 'Before Applying' for analysis of child drowning statistics (NZ/Australia) and the negative effects FoSPA interpretations have had on our industry during the last 10 years...
As the new NZBC clause F9 Schedule is now expected to be published in late April, we urge all involved in the pool industry and safety compliance process, to use the time to ensure common sense prevails...
Click on the banner above to go to Les' web page, download the submission, study it, review it and re-send the package to the MBIE at the email address provided...
Obviously, we recommend you include your own experience and comments regarding the direction of new legislation, in your covering email...
Based on our observations at Select Committee Hearings, most of the 392 submissions MBIE received about pool safety compliance legislation, did not originate from pool owners or the pool industry...
We believe, if the "pool industry" does not get involved in moderating the emotive demands we heard voiced, our industry will disappear as the idea of "owning a home pool" becomes considered, an anti-social practice in our increasingly PC society...
Maybe you should have attended the Hearings and heard the emotive rhetoric for yourself?
Perhaps, then you would also share our concerns...
Les J Hole - Mob: 0274 77 9000 - Director: Swish Automation Ltd
Pool Manufacturers and Retailers required to supply consumer notices
From 1 September 2017, manufacturers and retailers must supply notices with pools informing consumers that the pool must have barriers that restrict access by young children.
For example, the barrier could be a 1.2m high fence surrounding the pool, or a safety cover for a small heated pool such as a spa pool or hot tub.
This notice requirement applies to pools that can be filled with water to a depth of 400mm or more.
People must apply for a building consent before installing barriers for residential pools, other than safety covers for small heated pools.
From 1 January 2017, the Building Act 2004 also requires residential pools, other than small heated pools with safety covers, to be inspected every three years to check the barriers.
The Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment carried out public consultation on proposals for these manufacturer and retailer notices in September 2016.
Read the specific requirements for these notices in the New Zealand Gazette Building (Pool Manufacturers and Retailers) Notice 2017.
Read further information on restricting access to residential pools on the Building Performance website.www.govt.nz - your guide to finding and using New Zealand government services